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Afterall, all fan translations are fundamentally illegal. If I were going on a big moral/ethical/legal kick, I should kick myself first! But, it's when people who pirate stuff act with "righteous indignation", like: "how dare they try to stop us from pirating!" or "let's get scans of all the packaging material so we can beat the test!" We don't deserve this stuff - we have absolutely no right to it unless we pay for it. If you're going to pirate something, fine -- do whatever you want. But don't expect people to go out of their way to help you, or provide translations for you, or whatever. NNL decided that they only want to provide their translation to people who actually bought the game. Their translation, their rules; translations don't "deserve" to be distributed to the general public. But look at what's happened... Really, the part that ticks me off isn't about this project. After all, as others have said (even the translation team themselves), Wind isn't the best visual novel out there, and even if those of us who did buy the game can't get the translation, we're no worse off than we were before. (After all, when I bought the game, I had no guarantee that the translation project would ever result in a finished product.) What gets me mad is the same thing that gets me mad about scanlations, fansubs, and the rest of this "scene". If you're a fan, you should be grateful for all the stuff you get that you don't deserve. And if there are strings attached, you shouldn't act indignant about it - you either deal with it, or you go without. In the "real world", this is common sense, but somehow the Internet exempts itself from such logic. This is a community that actually laughs -- really! -- at those of us who put our money where out mouths are. Isn't there something wrong with this picture? If people had a shred of dignity -- if they actually remembered that, every step along the way, there are actual, real human beings affected on a personal level -- maybe they'd show a bit more tact. But it seems like every time the community is given an opportunity to show what they're really made of, it falls flat on its face in a miserable display of selfishness, conceit, self-centered egotism, and stupidity. Everyone acts like piracy is something that "can't be helped", and implies that "some other sucker with money will buy it instead", but we've lost track of what's really important. We are the fans; we are the market. If we don't do our part, we will go without. Doesn't that bother anyone? Or are people only here (in this larger community) because it's free, entertaining, and passes the time until some other time-killer comes along... what a way to live! Anyway, and once again all the drama, but it just gets on my nerves. It doesn't surprise or upset me that people pirate Japanese games. What upsets me is that they act like it's their right to do so, and that those of us who do buy stuff as we're able are the weird exceptions. Some day, this little dreamworld will collapse. ËÝÌõ¥Ñ¥Ã¥Á¤òÇÛÉÛ¤¹¤ë¤Ë¤¢¤¿¤Ã¤Æ°ìÈÖ¸·¤·¤¤¼êË¡¤òÁªÂò¤·¤¿NNL¤Î·èÄê¤ò´°Á´¤Ë»Ù»ý¤¹¤ë¡£Planetarian¡Á ¤Á¤¤¤µ¤Ê¤Û¤·¤Î¤æ¤á¡Á¤Ç²¿¤¬µ¯¤³¤Ã¤¿¤«¤ò»×¤¤½Ð¤»¤Ð¡¢Èà¤é¤¬¡¢Ã¯¤¬ËÝÌõ¤Î²¸·Ã¤òÆÀ¤é¤ì¤ë¤Î¤«¤ËÂФ·¤Æ¡¢ÀäÂÐŪ¤Ê¸À¤¤Êý¤ò¤·¤¿¤¬¤ë¤Î¤Ï¤Á¤Ã¤È¤â¶Ã¤¤Ç¤Ï¤Ê¤¤¤è¡£Planetarian¤Ï¤¿¤Ã¤¿¤Î1000±ß¤À¤Ã¤¿¡£¤Ç¡¢ËÝÌõ¥Ñ¥Ã¥Á¤¬½Ð¤¿»þ¤Ë郎Çã¤Ã¤¿¡©¼«Ê¬¤ò½ü¤¤¤Æ¤Ï¡¢insani¥á¥ó¥Ð¡¼¤È¡¢¤Û¤ó¤Î¶Ï¤«¤Ê¿Íã¡Ä¡¢¤½¤ì¤À¤±¡£¤ß¤ó¤Ê¤Ë¹ØÆþ¤·¤Æ¤â¤é¤¦°Õ¿Þ¤Ç¥Ñ¥Ã¥Á¤¬È¯É½¤µ¤ì¤¿»þ¡¢¼«¾ÎKey¥Õ¥¡¥ó¤Ï¥²¡¼¥à¤ò¥Ï¥Ã¥¥ó¥°¤·¤Æ¡¢ËÝÌõÈǤòÍ·¤ó¤À¤ó¤À¡£¤Ê¤µ¤±¤Ê¤¤¡£ËÜÅö¤Ë¤Ê¤µ¤±¤Ê¤¤¤è¡£ ¤¿¤Ã¤¿¤Î1000±ß¤Ê¤Î¤Ë¡Ä¡£ That being said, I completely support NNL' decission to take a sharper approach in handling this translation patch distribution. Remembering what happened to planetarian ~chiisana hoshi no yume~, I am not surprised at all that they want to have an absolute say at who's getting such benefits as eroge translations anyway. planetarian costed only 1000 yen, and who bought it when the translation patch was out? Apart from me, the insani crew and a few others... none. Self proclaimed Key "fans" then hacked the game and patched it with the English translation, when the intention was for people to buy the game, then play it translated. Sad. Really sad. The game was only 1000 yen... ¤¢¤¢¡¢Â¿¤¯¤ÎÅÛ¤Ï¡ÊÆüËܤΥ²¡¼¥à¤Î¡ËÃÍÃʤˤĤ¤¤ÆÊ¸¶ç¤ò¤¤¤¦¤±¤É¡¢Èà¤é¤ÏÉáÄ̤Î$50¤Î¹ñÆâ¥²¡¼¥à¤µ¤¨Çã¤ï¤Ê¤¤¡£¤¿¤È¤¨¤½¤ì¤¬$10¤ÎPlanetarian¤Ç¤¢¤Ã¤Æ¤â¡£¤½¤·¤Æ¡¢Èà¤é¤ÏËÝÌõ¼Ô¤¿¤Á¤¬Ê°³´¤¹¤ë¤³¤È¤Ë¶Ã¤¯¤Î¤µ¡£¤¤Ã¤ÈƬ¤ò»È¤¨¤Ê¤¤¤ó¤À¤í¤¦¤è¡£ Yeah, many complain about the price of these games, but they don't even buy the regularly priced $50 games that the English market has. Not even the $10 game, Planetarian. 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Free << anything not free as well as clicking a link is easier than navigating through pages in japanese using a guide. Btw, I bought it twice. DL version and about a month ago the retail version. Heck, it was only 3000Y. Now, my reason for pirating unlicensed stuff: money is part of it, since the cost of buying R2s is significantly larger than local releases (but I do buy local releases, provided the title in question impresses me enough that I consider it worth the money). But, the reason I pirate unlicensed stuff is that I'm just not interesting in giving money to Japanese companies, when their products aren't marketed towards me (ie, someone who doesn't live in Japan or speaks the language). That's why I'll happily throw my money at local releases, but am not interested in importing anime/games from Japan. In other words, I want to pay for official English translations and local packages. 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